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Post by bigfly73 on Aug 11, 2014 17:05:12 GMT -5
I think 14/15 owners giving it a good shot is not bad. Being a young league the bar is not as high as I would like it to be. But it will be set at a higher level as the league grows and rule changes will be coming to ensure that every owner knows the bar is set high, and they are expected to act accordingly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 17:07:43 GMT -5
Ok good... So you are coming to the dark side... 14 out of 15 owners gave it a good shot and one tanked. So we are in agreement.
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Post by bigfly73 on Aug 11, 2014 17:10:30 GMT -5
As close as it's gonna get at least
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 8:29:17 GMT -5
I hope that I am not considered the team left out of the 15 teams. I was brought back into the league with only the left over FA left to pick from leaving me no options to fill multiple empty positions. I check the league daily and make moves when possible. I haven't had a lot to work with to make daily moves. But when a propsect gets called up ie. Alcantara or Baez, I get them into my starting lineup.
Before the season started I assumed that Sano, Baez, d'Arnaud, and Choice, would all be up and be my core by June at the latest. Sano got hurt, Baez struggled early, and d'Arnaud and Choice have shown nothing in the majors. Which put a huge damper in my ability to compete as I was banking on these prospects to come up and participate in the bigs earlier and stronger than shown.
Please don't believe that this league has any less interest to me than the other league I am in. I check this site daily, I haven't made a lot of trades lately, but then again no one has. Plus I like where I am at players wise heading into the offseason. And with many of my top prospects now in the majors I can look to turn the corner this offseason and begin to compete while the rest of the players trickle into the majors.
When it comes to the draft I don't think teams at the bottom should be punished by not getting picks they need. They are trying to rebuild their teams with prospects, so to take away one of the best ways for them to acquire good ones to help them turn the corner will only further their time at the bottom.
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Post by bigfly73 on Aug 13, 2014 11:52:28 GMT -5
You are the team that clearly has had a toughest time competing. The reasons you gave above are why I've been adamant in saying no teams "tanked". I'm a little surprised your points aren't a bit higher with your roster, but it seems you have been setting your lineup with some diligence. The only real problem I have is I did not envision this as a league where someone would come in and blow up a roster to stockpile prospects for the future. The idea behind a 15 team league was to have a bit more competitive balance than in the 30 team leagues, where it is inevitable that 3-5 teams with be in rebuild mode. Of course there is nothing in the constitution that prevents any teams from doing major rebuilding so maybe it was a bit nearsighted for me to think every owner would see it that way.
We are going to make some changes to better get across the vision we have for this league. We are not attempting to "punish" any of the teams near the bottom. We realize not every owner came into the league with an equal opportunity to compete quickly. But we do feel like we want to get away from owners who have "nothing" to play for and tend to be far less active. The purpose of having the divisions and wild card is to have something beyond just the championship to strive for. I feel like in a 3 division league with 5 teams per, every team should have a chance to at least be competitive for the division. This may take a year or two, but it is the ideal I have and I'm hoping everyone else can have. We will be releasing the details on the changes soon. A few things are changes to the constitution and a few will be rule votes for the entire league.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 12:56:54 GMT -5
Thank you, to me if I am going to be at the bottom, I am not playing for nothing, I am playing to make my team the strongest at rebuilding so I can compete quickly. If I am at the bottom I better have the strongest/or one of the strongest, prospect bases in the league or I am not working hard enough at it. And at this point I believe I do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 12:58:00 GMT -5
I understand with 15 teams there is less need for a rebuild, but I was not fond of my team. Most teams had their teams mostly set when I rejoined. So to me my only really option was to destroy and build from the ground up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 17:12:58 GMT -5
There has to be rules in place to force teams to put out a full line up when they have the financial means or players on their bench (regardless if they are starters or not) that can fill an open line up spot (that stays open for weeks or months)...
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Post by bigfly73 on Aug 13, 2014 17:34:56 GMT -5
I'm not sure about a full lineup, but the minimums will take care of people not paying attention to how many guys they are playing. I know I have 5-6 guys on my bench and a few open spots, but those guys are just brutal, I'm not going to play them just to have a full lineup. But the stricter minimum's will mean having to play guys on a regular basis, both pitchers and hitters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 17:46:29 GMT -5
Look I understand that occasionally we don't want to play a certain player due to match up issues. But what if a team doesn't bother putting in a player into their batting line up for 3 months?
Again I bring up the real world scenario that Real MLB teams tank all the time but they MUST at least try to field a complete team (especially when they have 3 months’ time and money to find replacement players).
I think either the AB number needs to be adjusted (which currently there is none)or stricter penalties need to be in place if you do not reach those ABs (or both). Again with the caveat that if you run out of money during the season and your team is wrecked with injuries then there may be some sort of reprieve.
Also maybe look at not allowing teams to make trades if the trade will cause them to have a incomplete team (unless they are making a simultaneous call up or something similar).
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Post by bigfly73 on Aug 13, 2014 17:48:55 GMT -5
I understand with 15 teams there is less need for a rebuild, but I was not fond of my team. Most teams had their teams mostly set when I rejoined. So to me my only really option was to destroy and build from the ground up. It was understandable, I know you traded a lot of good players but they were 4th-5th-6ths mainly. We just don't want teams on a regular basis, saying oh my team sucks I'm gonna blow it up and start over. Hopefully all the owners carry over and no one will have to do that. It's hard to predict performances and injuries, so a team may be in a position where they need to, but we will have some rules in place where nobody can just say I'm gonna blow it up and be terrible without a few negatives that may occur if they choose to do so. It's not going to be anything major, just a few tweaks. And if we do need to fill an owner spot in the future that new owner will know that they may need to be creative and work a little harder on finding some good near ml'ers or good 1-3 guys if they want to trade off some of their higher priced or late arb guys to get younger. I know lots of guys love prospects, I do too, but they are just such a crapshoot and I don't want teams to end up in prospect purgatory where guys don't pan out as planned and they are just stuck being the worst or near worst team for 2-3 or more years, making prospect upon prospect trade. There are TONS of leagues out there that are much more prospect oriented than this one is geared to be.
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Post by bigfly73 on Aug 13, 2014 17:52:13 GMT -5
Look I understand that occasionally we don't want to play a certain player due to match up issues. But what if a team doesn't bother putting in a player into their batting line up for 3 months? Again I bring up the real world scenario that Real MLB teams tank all the time but they MUST at least try to field a complete team (especially when they have 3 months’ time and money to find replacement players). I think either the AB number needs to be adjusted (which currently there is none)or stricter penalties need to be in place if you do not reach those ABs (or both). Again with the caveat that if you run out of money during the season and your team is wrecked with injuries then there may be some sort of reprieve. Also maybe look at not allowing teams to make trades if the trade will cause them to have a incomplete team (unless they are making a simultaneous call up or something similar). We may not be doing as much as you want JP, but we are going to do some changes. We will have stricter minimums and penalties tied to ab's/pa's and ip's. Stephen should be releasing the info in the next week.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 17:53:29 GMT -5
That silly JP he's crazy... I got pizza!!! Excuse me while I feed my face.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 8:04:58 GMT -5
Increasing AB or PA minimums and IP should reveal if someone id tanking which i dont think anyone has.
The reality is in any league you have to have teams that lose;In this league we have the Washington Brewers and in the majors there is the Loveable Cubbies...Any Cub fans that I pissed off hahaha?
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Post by bigfly73 on Aug 14, 2014 22:11:16 GMT -5
No doubt we will have teams that aren't great in this league, but we are just trying to get away from any teams doing a "super" rebuild. We want to ensure teams are staying on the brink of competitiveness as much as possible.
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